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Old 09-24-2006, 11:31 PM
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Default 98 valve cover - doesn't play well with others

I just discovered that my 98 ls1 heads use a different bolt pattern on the valve covers than do my ported lq9 heads. I knew the 98s had the coils mounted directly to the cover instead of first to a bracket then a cover, but this one kinda pissed me off.

The 1998 valve cover uses about 10 bolts all around the perimeter of the void where the valves live. The lq9 uses 4 bolts right down the center of the void (bolts to risers in between the valvesprings). Is this a 98 thing or an lq9 thing? IE what do all the 99-02 ls1s use?

Looks like I'm in the market for valve covers... hence the bastard comment above. I was so excited about getting that buttoned up too.
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: 98 valve cover - doesn't play well with others

mine has the center bolts. the perimeter bolts is 98 kinda thing. sorry to hear about your bump in the road.



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Old 09-24-2006, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 98 valve cover - doesn't play well with others

Check Ebay and LS1tech. It's also noteworthy that the 99+ truck motors have center bolt covers as well, but you will need the fbody coil bracket to make the coils mount correctly.

The covers usually go for $60-$90, and the brackets can be purchased from a GM dealership for around $20/side.
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:50 AM
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Contact http://www.smcperformance.com/ he has all you need in stock and much cheaper prices then the dealer. I buy all my parts from him and I live in Canada, even after shipping he is still cheaper then the prices I can get over here.
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Did y'all know that the coils are different on the 98s too?!? 3 are the same but the bolt pattern on the 4th is reversed!
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Yep. You can just turn the 4th upside down and they will all bolt to the 99+ bracket.
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Default Re: 98 valve cover - doesn't play well with others

hahaha...
I love my bastard '98 motor!
but its definitely a weird odd-man-out kinda motor.

so frijolee, what kinda stuff is going on for your motor?
just new/ported heads or some big cammy goodness?
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Default Re: 98 valve cover - doesn't play well with others

got my valve covers and brackets off eBay for my '98 w/ 243 castings. dont remember the exact price, but wasnt much. my '98 is basically an '01-'02 inside and out now w/ a few aftermarket upgrades here and there. only went w/ the '98 cus of the price and availability.

goodluck getting everthing back together. give us some details of the head swap... i assume there is a cam as well...
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Yep. You can just turn the 4th upside down and they will all bolt to the 99+ bracket.
Awesome! That's a super hot tip. I was getting so pissed at this damn thing. If I ever meet you in person the first drink's on me.

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hahaha...
I love my bastard '98 motor!
but its definitely a weird odd-man-out kinda motor.

so frijolee, what kinda stuff is going on for your motor?
just new/ported heads or some big cammy goodness?
-Katech rod bolts
-Harland sharp rebuilt rockers
-Stock crank. rods, pistons
-Ported heads as mentioned
-Cam was going to be a 243/252 .594/.594 monster (custom Lunati). However, I didn't like my piston to valve clearance (0.076 intake and 0.070 exhaust instead of the 0.080 and 0.100 recommended) and I didn't want to deal with ajustable timing or piston notching. Sooooo...
-Cam is now a Futral F13 230/232. It'll still idle nasty but not that nasty.

Anyone in the market for a BIG stick?
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Awesome! That's a super hot tip. I was getting so pissed at this damn thing. If I ever meet you in person the first drink's on me.

No problem. The hardest part is finding the tiny bolts that you will need to bolt them all to the brackets. I ended up getting 50 or so from www.mcmaster.com because that was the smallest amount they sell. At least they were cheap....

Sounds like a nice motor. I have a smaller cam (224/224 114 lsa) with larger heads and have been very happy with it. I also did the Katech rod bolts.
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