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Old 04-20-2005, 07:07 AM
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Default Anypone ever wreck their V8 RX7?

I'm discussing the conversions with a guy on another board, and since he can't come up with any OTHER valid reason to hat eth e conversion (all the handling, balance, weight, and "purity" issues ahve been gone over), he's now come down on the "fact" that putting the V8 in the car uses up room in the engine compartment the engineers designed in for crush space in an accident, thus making the car less safe for passengers in an accident.

I've tried to explain that there's still the same amount to space ahead of the engine to be crushed, that in an accident where the engineer's crush space is involved the V8 would go down and back, like the stocker would, and that the variables are so wide that if you went 5 mph faster in a STOCK RX7 you could end up with worse damage and worse results for the occupants than a V8 conversion would at the speeds the engineers tested for IF the conversion actually dos change the thing slightly (whi9ch is always possible...)

I've seen hundreds of crashed cars and done crash repair on them, and I know that the V8 conversion isn't unsafe in this regard. hell, this guy will recommend older cars for projects, like 240Zs and even early ford Capris, neither of which had the decades of safety advancements a 2nd gen RX7 has, and so are inherently less safe for passengers in an acccident that a stock RX7 OR a modded one, but he never mentions that THEY are unsafe to drive like he does the V8 RX7...

So I need some expert help here...
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sounds like your friend is grasping at straws
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sounds like your friend is grasping at straws
Exactly. Tell him to go find an RX-7 chassis, throw a V8 in it, and buckle up as it's dropped from a crane.

Just flat out tell him he is grasping for straws at this point and there is no argument left. You win.
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Actually, he's right, statistically you'll be much more likely to have a wreck in a converted rx as it will spend significantly more time on the road
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Actually, he's right, statistically you'll be much more likely to have a wreck in a converted rx as it will spend significantly more time on the road

That is GOOD! LOL!!!
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Actually, he's right, statistically you'll be much more likely to have a wreck in a converted rx as it will spend significantly more time on the road
LMAO!!!! :funny:

Just tell him he is wasting your time. If that is all that he can come up with, then you win.

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Actually, he's right, statistically you'll be much more likely to have a wreck in a converted rx as it will spend significantly more time on the road
Bahhahahahaha
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Actually, he's right, statistically you'll be much more likely to have a wreck in a converted rx as it will spend significantly more time on the road
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Major lamens misconseption here is that"A crumple zones has nothing to do with space given that is unocupied..It has to do with the location and metalurgy of the unit body itself..The impact is absorbed by the frame structure in the car and the rails will go as intended as long as the engine is retained at the factory cradle.."The actual zone that laymen tend to think is not the open space,,Its actually the framerails themselves..The notches that people tend to point out so they look smarts are to allow the intended direction of the section when a force is applied..Furthermore if the car is fastenough then a roll bar is incorporated into the chassis and as long as the installer is up to terms of properly installing a stiffning structure into a unit body frame the bar or cage will further support the main structure of the impact thus spreading it out further along the therectical line of union..IE;(sending the force to be loaded into the floor structure and throughout the cabin area to be absorbed as lateral stresses)

Sorry if that went over anybodys head..Thats the basics of chassis suplmentation and stiffning.As explained by lectures at an ATEC seminar a few years back i attended.I cant remember the guys name but he is the guy that works in porsche's chassis aplication engeneering dept and spearheaded their racing chassis development programs.

In otrher words the space has not a damn thing to do with crumple,impact, or crush zones..Thats the job of the tranny tunnel the left and right aprons framerails and the hardware that holds it together..So if he is so concerned with such crap then he should be using a bolt stretch gauge to check the integrity of his fasteners throughout his car as well as assuring that the rockwell hardness of his fasteners is equal to the oem parts installed on his car..God forbid his damned ace hardware fender bolt is way past its usage and snaps off when he has a fender bender..

For a change i was going to edit my typing but since i can spell perfect but cant type worth a poop i have decided to leave this and future posts as they are..(like a two year old typed them)
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